Hitlerism on Saudi Islamic Channel: Jews are Apes and Pigs
Do not be surprised why the US air forces hit the caves of terrorism in Afghanistan and Iraq. Do not be shocked if the civilized world tries to crack down on Muslim immigration. Do not be surprised if we celebrate the death of Abu Musaab Al Zarqawi. Do not be surprised why there is a global war on terrorism. Do not be surprised that some Arab intellectuals believe that President Bush is the cure for terrorism, despite his low popularity among many. Because they know that dictatorships produced this "takferri" terrorist mentalities in which their lives are threatened under forever. Do not be surprised that the western world that laid the basis for tolerant, diverse, all faith world is putting restrictions on its tolerant policies after London, Madrid, New York and Washington, Bali, Beslan, Iraq and Sharm El Sheikh bombings. I received this shocking video from a friend of mine who does not speak Arabic and wanted to verify whether the translation reflects the Arabic. I only had the intention to see the video and tell him my opinion. But I after i heard what is being said in this terrorist video to share it with you.The video was aired on the Islamic Saudi Channel Iqra that is broadcast all over the Middle East. It is an interview with a three and a half old year girl described as a "True Muslim" and supposed to be a role model for other Muslim girl. I believe it is a children's program.
The girl is wearing a scarf?? Is this the definition of a childhood for what they call themselves "true Muslims". This is childhood abuse and there is no difference between it and childhood pornography. She is wearing it because her parents are teaching her that males are thirsty dogs who will try to rape her at anytime. Second, she is talking about things I did not know about when I was 8 years old. Where is the innocence of the childhood? What are they are teaching her. DO not blame her when she grows up and believes that suicide bombers are her role models for an Islamic life. I feel so sorry for her childhood because other girls at her age enjoy the playgrounds, healthy mental life and fun activities.
She and the presenter are happy to be declaring that Jews are pigs and apes and they keep repeating that. I am not surprised at the insult because I know some progressive Muslim writers who cannot walk in the street because they received death threats from Islamic groups. It is a second nature for these groups to promote hatred and fear that leads to violence and terrorism. Bus and markets suicide bombing start from such programs and channels that promote hatred terrorist ideology.
I am expressing my disgust here but not on behalf of being a Muslim. I do not and I will never talk because I am a Muslim. By doing so I will be using these groups discriminatory ways of putting everyone in their places according to his/her faith. I want to be human and I want to belong to the humanity at large. It is so rich and beautiful…
BTW, this girl is a daughter of a repenting actor. Two days ago I wrote about a repenting actresses in case you do not know what is a repenting actor. This is the generation of children they bring!
posted by Freedom For Egyptians @ 8:20 PM
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44 Comments:
Actually FFE,
It is "death threats" not "life threats."
Also, your link to the repenting actresses just links back to this article.
No biggie. Just wanted to notify you. This is an interesting story. Thanks for covering it. I love your blog. Feel free to delete this comment after reading it.
That tells something about me. I always think "life" not "death". I meant the latter. Link is redirected... Thanks Tommy!
Yeah, I can understand why you would think it would be "life" rather than "death" threats. Death threats are a threat to your life, of course.
I guess it is the same sort of paradox that exists with the term "life insurance." It actually ensures you if you die.
Have a good one.
I can't believe this..! and then they blame the civilized world..! it makes it very hard for a wise decision.. completely absurde
I find your report rather staggering. This is child abuse -- emotional and religious. No one can tell me that the child has thought this out for herself... pure indoctrination, that's what it is. How can we expect her to grow up with a healthy view of others?
Thanks for writing!
FFE,
It is indeed sad that kids are taught these things at an early age. The only hope is that they grow up and question such beliefs.
And while I disagree with forcing anyone, child or adult, to wear the hijab. I don't think comparing it with child pornography is fair.
The reasons for parents wanting their children to wear the hijab have little to do with pedophilia. I think it's more symbolic than anything else. After all, some do believe that it is obligatory (fard), so they try to get their children used to it at an early age.
To each his own, and I think the hijab itself is obsolete compared to what the child is being taught in the video.
First of all I was SHOCKED that you are a Muslim. You are a shame to Islam. This girl is only saying what Allah said in the Qur'an, no one need to teach her this, if you read Qur'an (obviously NOT) you would know that this is Allah’s words. And yes we have to teach our children what the Jews did to us and to our Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). Whether you want to hate them or not, it’s up to you, but if you live the miserable life the Palestinians live every single day, you will be the first to hate the Jews and it will be the first thing you teach your kids, even before you teach them how to say Mom or Dad.
If you care about Muslims, Palestinians particularly, you will have no choice but to hate the Jews, just watching the news (the Arabic media) and what they do there, will make you hate them!!!!! All western media is biased of course and that’s why your western friends hate us, because we kill innocent Jews!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don’t get it, how you sympathies with them!!! You make me sick.
And a little note for you, the girl wearing the scarf because she’s on the show, she is a true Muslim girl and her parents would make her put it ONLY for the show, it will not be for anything else, that does not mean she started wearing it already. I’m 100% sure that she never wore it and it was her first time just to resemble the Islamic look in a TV show. And how dare you compare this to child pornography!!! By what means this is related?? I just cannot believe you… what childhood rights were taken away from her by wearing hejab??? She cannot play?? She cannot do what children do??? And again I’m sure this was a moment thing only for the show. Be logical!!!!
I have two daughters and my 18 months old copies my movements and her mom’s while we’re praying, she also tries to put the hijab on her head like her mom does, what you say about this!! Child abuse??? Pornography!!! Every time she does that, I smile and hope and pray God that she will wear it one day on her own when she grows up and be a good Muslim girl.
You know what, I just cannot decide what’s worse, sympathizing with the Jews or calling hejab pornography and child abuse. You should rethink what you said, or at least take out the part about comparing hejab pornography, sympathize all you want with the Jews, it does not hurt anyone!! Remember that one day you will be meeting Allah and you will be asked about this blog!
Issa, You are a true Muslim for sure.
Since you take the Quran seriously, I guess you also know about the hate and anger in it. You probably also know about the horrible, vile things your prophet did to infidels (not just jews either), like murder, torture, slavery, and rape.
This is why Islam is what it is - because of people like you that take it seriously, and because because of the intense and unending hate. It is not just the jews, it is anybody that Muslims want to blame for their troubles.
I don't really care what the girl is wearing, or what words she is repeating. She is not the problem, the problem the hate propagated by the Imams, media and educational system in all of the Islamic world.
Tell me, Issa, how can anyone respect a religion that is built on hate and dishonesty?
Ms FFE. You are great. I really wish you didn't have to write about these things, but more power to you.
John Kactuz
With all my respect Mr. Issa:
1- Ripping a child off her childhood is not just about playing around and laughing out loud... it's about destroying her innocence in looking at things; in already developing these feelings
2- if all this energy and effort and was put into this child's raising and education was directed to actually do soemthing good to humanity other than hating other ppl am sure she's a smart kid and would have been on a different program :" the youngest girl to win a rpize in art or litterature or whatever:"
3- It is really hard for me as a canadian citizen who believes in rights; freedoms to undrestand that your religion tells u to call other ppl names?? and then u ask the west why are they getting too agressive??
4- As a young girl i used to imitate my mom too by putting make up and wearing heels.. so am not sure what are u trying to imply by ur daughter doing the same with Hijab?? so?? don;t all kids do so??
5- what happened AND is happening to palestiniens is really sad.. very true... amoung many other ppl around the world who had to suffer the same way... u do not hate ppl cus they are jew or they are anything else .. hate is a word that u ought to remove from ur dictionary and ur kids dictionay .. and maybe replace it with forgiveness
This is quite revolting. It is sad to see a child’s head being filled with indiscriminate hatred. And on top of that, they are proudly alleging that this is “the true Islam.” What a disgrace to Islam and humanity that is!
Yousra : You are wrong
Issa is right
Yes Islam is about hate and Murder
WHICH ISLAM ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??
+ Is it the Wahabi Islam that puts you in jail for possessing a Bible in Saudi Arabia ?
+ Is it the Islam of Ibn-Taymiya ,Said Qutb and Abu Al-Ala'Al-Mawdoudi that preaches hate and killing of all Non-Moslims ??
+ Is it the Islam of Zawahiry,Zarqawy or Bin Ladin ??
+ Is it the Islam that says:"There shall be no compulsion in religion - 2:256 (Mansoukha=Abrogated)
+ Is it the Islam that says:
-"Fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them and seize them,and beleager them,and lie in wait for them " 9:5
-"against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power,including steeds of war, to strike T E R R O R into the hearts of the enemies of Allah and your enemies" 8:60
- O Apostle ! Rouse the Believers to the fight !" 8:65
- O ye who believe ! Truly the Pagans are Unclean !" 9:28
- "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day,nor hold that forbidden by Allah and his APOSTLE,nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth,even if they are of the People of the Book,until they pay the JIZIA with willing SUBMISSION,and feel themselves SUBDUED" 9:29
( JIZIA=is a Poll Tax levied from those who refuse to adopt Islam paid to Moslims and followed by a slap on the back of the neck to fulfill the order of the Quran to make them feel SUBDUED - Makhtoum ala Qafah - This was stopped in Egypt by the Albanian Ruller Mohammad Ali about 200 years ago ).
Yousra , this is what the Quran says , What do YOU say ???
I'm curious how Issa justifies classified Christians among the "apes and pigs." Aren't there plenty of Christians in places like Lebanon, the West Bank, and Egypt? They are the enemy too, huh? You are sick.
If you regard Jews and Christians as "apes and pigs" because it is in the Qur'an, a 1500 year old document, and the state of modern Israel is only about fifty years old, and the US is only a few hundred years old, then you are admitting that you would hate Jews and Christians regardless of whether or not the United States or Israel even existed. You are also admitting that there is nothing the West or Israel could possibly do to satiate your hatred of them since you take the Qur'an so literally.
If that is how you feel, how can you expect us to give a shit about your "human rights" or even your very existence?
Issa you are a twerp. That stratum of society you dwell in is the cesspool that spawns the bin Ladens and Zarqawis of the world. In this global war on terror, no mercy should be extended to vile Islamists like yourself. You and your ilk are the enemy.
I've seen this video long time ago, and it really made me feel a deep kind grief. How can we raise kids in such a way? How come sucha girl will deal others when she gets a put older, how much inner will she suffer in her life from the hatred she is suckling in her childhood. This is really painful.
All this anger just makes me sad. Sad that people cannot get along. Sad that hostilities rise so easily. Issa is trying to insite anger, and it seems most of the commentors here are taking the bait. The battle between Israel and Palestine is not about religion. There are many, many Christian Palestinians living in both Israel and the Palestinian territories, and the Christians are not treated any differently than Muslim Palestinians. The fight is over land- religion is simply a collateral issue. There are a number of Christian aid organizations working in Palestine and lobbying the US congress on behalf of the Palestinian people, regardless of religion. People like Issa simply feed and incite ignorance about religion and history of the region.
There are statements in the Koran that most Muslims would not defend, but would instead put in the context of the time in which it was written. Similarly, there are statements in the Bible that taken on their own out of context, many true Christians would not defend. Same with the Torah- how many Jewish people really live by the old rules???
The little girl is being exploited, period. Any child can memorize what they are told- children will beat out adults on memory tests any day! My friend's 5 year old daughter memorized the entire koran with a tutor in less than one year. To teach a child and take pleasure in their growing faith is one thing. But to use a child who is too young to truly understand and rationalize what they are saying as an example- that child is being indoctrinated and exploited.
Issa: you are right that there are many injustices in the way Israel treats Palestinians, Christian and Muslim alike. But hatred is not innate to human nature- it is taught and learned. Look at the bridges which are built through Seeds of Peace. Look at the children from the Documentary "Promises" (I highly recommend it if you haven't seen it). The key to change is raising a generation that sees similarities, values equality, erases intolerance, and abates ignorance. Breeding yet another generation filled with blind hatred, reciting words without knowing the people about whom they speak, is not the answer.
All this anger just makes me sad. Sad that people cannot get along. Sad that hostilities rise so easily. Issa is trying to insite anger, and it seems most of the commentors here are taking the bait. The battle between Israel and Palestine is not about religion. There are many, many Christian Palestinians living in both Israel and the Palestinian territories, and the Christians are not treated any differently than Muslim Palestinians. The fight is over land- religion is simply a collateral issue. There are a number of Christian aid organizations working in Palestine and lobbying the US congress on behalf of the Palestinian people, regardless of religion. People like Issa simply feed and incite ignorance about religion and history of the region.
There are statements in the Koran that most Muslims would not defend, but would instead put in the context of the time in which it was written. Similarly, there are statements in the Bible that taken on their own out of context, many true Christians would not defend. Same with the Torah- how many Jewish people really live by the old rules???
The little girl is being exploited, period. Any child can memorize what they are told- children will beat out adults on memory tests any day! My friend's 5 year old daughter memorized the entire koran with a tutor in less than one year. To teach a child and take pleasure in their growing faith is one thing. But to use a child who is too young to truly understand and rationalize what they are saying as an example- that child is being indoctrinated and exploited.
Issa: you are right that there are many injustices in the way Israel treats Palestinians, Christian and Muslim alike. But hatred is not innate to human nature- it is taught and learned. Look at the bridges which are built through Seeds of Peace. Look at the children from the Documentary "Promises" (I highly recommend it if you haven't seen it). The key to change is raising a generation that sees similarities, values equality, erases intolerance, and abates ignorance. Breeding yet another generation filled with blind hatred, reciting words without knowing the people about whom they speak, is not the answer.
Dear blogger...
I have read your comment on the web blog you have. I do agree with you that there is a hatred derived force of hatred towards the west in general and towards Jews to be specific. I just want to clarify that this in not a proactive role that we in the Middle East are adopting, it’s just a reaction to all that injustice and hatred that the west is treating us with. I do understand that you might think because you live abroad or live know a thing or two, that you see the whole picture, you are wrong! You are speaking from a point of view of someone who sees the picture they are showing you, it would be hard to explain in a few lines what I mean. I lived in Egypt half my life, I was born in the US and I’m still in the US. Yet, I see the whole picture or at least I’m trying to. I just wanted to add one more thing. Comparing parents telling their kids to wear a scarf to make a habit when they grow up to child molestation is WRONG, as a concept and as subject. You are just on the extreme side, biased to being liberal, which is fine; just don't speak with the tongue of Islam and God.
My post here is because I care about you as a sister, you don't have to post this if you don’t want, and I just wanted this comment to reach you.
I ask God guidance for me before you, for being on the straight path is never easy, further more, it’s a bless from God, if you have it you are blessed.
I hope you read more and know more about how things go, and God bless you on your mission of correcting people beliefs, only when you are right, not according to personal views, do not judge people, God only can do that. I'm sure if we dig into the way you or me do things, we could find a million bad things, just like all of us, we are humans....
By the way, Jewish orthodox girls wear a scarf just like that girl, didn’t see you commenting on that… and teenagers in Israel carry weapons and they beat old Palestinians women and kids on the street, where is that on your comments, or are you just analyzing Muslims and criticizing them because you are a Muslim, that doesn’t make your credible sister. And to that friend, look to him/her in the face and tell him/her that GOD almighty cursed Jews in the Quran as apes and pigs, if you can’t say that or if you don’t believe in that, check on the faith gauge because it will give you zero reading sister!
Salamu 3alykom. Please forgive me if I offended you in any way, I was just speaking my mind, I'm sure you respect that.
Thanks for your time and have a great day!
THE REBELLION
Predictably enough, now some conservative Muslims on this thread are claiming that all this hatred of Jews and Christians is the fault of the West and of Israel. Unfortunately, jihadist sentiment predates the creation of Israel and even predates America's rise to prominence as a world power.
From Andrew Bostom's article: "America’s First War on Terror" concerning the Barbary states:
During their discussions, they questioned Ambassador Adja as to the source of the unprovoked animus directed at the nascent United States republic. Jefferson and Adams, in their subsequent report to the Continental Congress, recorded the Tripolitan Ambassador’s justification:
… that it was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman who should be slain in Battle was sure to go to Paradise.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=22314
بوادر أزمة "طائفية " جديدة بالأسكندرية... الأمن يحاصر جمعية يسعى المسيحيون لتحويلها إلى كنيسة والأقباط يطالبون رئيس الجمهورية بالتدخل
كتب أحمد حسن بكر ومحمد رشيد (المصريون) : بتاريخ 10 - 6 - 2006
أغلقت أجهزة الأمن في الإسكندرية مقرا يتخذه المسيحيون للصلاة بمنطقة العذراء أول أمس، وأحاطت المكان بسياج أمني واعتقلت أربعة من الشباب الأقباط ثم أفرجت عنهم في وقت لاحق.
وأكدت مصادر أن هذا التصعيد جاء على خلفية تحويل جمعية قبطية كانت تمارس فيها طقوس الصلاة إلى كنيسة؛ وذلك بعد أن وصلت معلومات إلى أجهزة الأمن بأن هناك احتفالاً لتنصيب أحد القساوسة للقيام بمهامه الدينية، إيذانًا بتحويل مقر الجمعية إلى كنيسة.
وأشارت إلى أن قوات الأمن قامت بمحاصرة الكنيسة واعتقلت أربعة أقباط، ثم أفرجت عنهم لاحقًا، كما قامت بتفريق أعداد كبيرة من المسيحيين الذين كانوا متواجدين داخل الجمعية، وقامت بفرض حراسة عادية عليها من نقطة شرطة خورشيد.
وترجع جذور الأزمة إلى ثلاث سنوات، عندما حدث اشتباك بين أهالي منطقة خورشيد والمسيحيين إثر محاولتهم تحويل مقر الجمعية إلى كنيسة ، وهو ما رفضه أهالي المنطقة في ذلك الوقت بسبب وجودها في منطقة ذات أغلبية مسلمة وتحيط بها العديد من المساجد ، والتخوف من أن يؤدي ذلك إلى إثارة مشاكل طائفية كثيرة.
وبحسب المصادر، فإن الأقباط قام بتشييد عدة أبنية داخل الجمعية لتحويلها إلى كنيسة دون الحصول على ترخيص.
من جانبه، طالب المستشار نجيب جبرائيل الناشط الحقوقي ورئيس منظمة الاتحاد المصري لحقوق الإنسان رئيس الجمهورية بالتدخل بصفته الشخصية لوضع حد لما ترتكبه قوات الأمن بحق الأقباط ، ومنعهم من ممارسة حقهم في العبادة الذي كفله لهم الدستور المصري في المادة 46 وجميع مواثيق حقوق الإنسان، على حد قوله.
كما طالب اللواء حبيب العادلي وزير الداخلية بإيضاح الحقائق بشفافية ووضوح وكشف الممارسات التي قامت بها الأجهزة الأمنية وعدم التعتيم على ما حدث حتى لا يتسبب ذلك في تردي الأحوال الأمنية، منتقدًا معالجة الأمور عن طريق إغلاق دور العبادة ومنع المسيحيين من ممارسة حقهم في العبادة، حسب تعبيره .
وناشد البيان الوزارة أن تكف عن حملة الاعتقالات التي يقوم بها رجال الأمن في أوساط المسيحيين من حين لآخر منذ أحداث محرم بك.
Dear Yousra :
If you did not like the message don't shoot the messenger !
You are calling "Issa" a shame on islam without questionning his sourses.
issa is a victim of what he reads and what he hears from the preachers of hate during the friday prayer sermons .
Here is a sample of what made the Issas,the Zarqawys and the Bin Ladens :
-"Fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them and seize them,and beleager them,and lie in wait for them " 9:5
-"against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power,including steeds of war, to strike T E R R O R into the hearts of the enemies of Allah and your enemies" 8:60
- O Apostle ! Rouse the Believers to the fight !" 8:65
- O ye who believe ! Truly the Pagans are Unclean !" 9:28
- "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day,nor hold that forbidden by Allah and his APOSTLE,nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth,even if they are of the People of the Book,until they pay the JIZIA with willing SUBMISSION,and feel themselves SUBDUED" 9:29
( JIZIA=is a Poll Tax levied from those who refuse to adopt Islam paid to Moslims and followed by a slap on the back of the neck to fulfill the order of the Quran to make them feel SUBDUED - Makhtoum ala Qafah - This was stopped in Egypt by the Albanian Ruller Mohammad Ali about 200 years ago ).
حقد ايه اللى جاية تقولى عليه
روحى شوفى هو مصدر الحقد ايه
0مع الاعتذار للأغنية المعروفة )
" O people of the Book(Jews and Christians)
Say:shall I point out to yousomething much worse than this,as judjed by the treatmrnt it received from Allah? Those who incurred the curse of Allah and His wrath, Those of whome some He transformed into Aped and Swines..."
Quran 5 : 62 & 63
قل يا أهل الكتاب
هل انبئكم بشر من ذلك مثوبة عند الله من لعنه الله وغضب عليه وجعل منهم القردة والخنازير
سورة المائدة 5 آيات 62&63
" Ye (Moslims) are the best Of People, evolved for Mankind "
Quran 3 : 110
المسلمون
كنتم خير أمة اخرجت للناس
سورة آل عمران 3 :110
I'm not shocked to find out Issa is a muslim. Anyone else? Anyone?
Issa, next time you're wondering how long the so-called war in terror is going to go on, measure your remaining life in days. It will be at least that long.
Fabucat, the Islamists are eventually going to decide that they *really* need to control Mecca. When that day comes, it will be better for the Saudis to fight that fight than for the Americans.
I watched the video and I read some of the comments and I almost threw up!
But there is tiny wee bit of hope. Some posters have common sense.
What's with the Egyptian accent on the video? I thought it was Saudi.
Yousra ,
حاجة من اتنين
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1- اما انك لم تقرئى القرآن بتاتا
2- أو انك تعرفين القرآن جيداولكنك تستخدمين مبدأ التقية الاسلامية وتدافعين دفاعا اعمى بلا مرجعية او دليل
نعم القرآن يشتم المسيحيين واليهود ويصفهم بألقردة والخنازير بل ويأمر القرآن بقتلهم اذا رفضوا اعتناق الاسلام
تحبى اكتب لك الآيات بالكامل ام يكفى اسماء السور وارقام الآيات لو متعرفيهاش ؟؟؟
بصى يا يسرا ارجوكى الرد بهدوء وبالدليل والبرهان مش كلام فارغ وقلة ادب وبس
ملحوظة
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لو متعرفيش يعنى ايه مبدأ التقية فى الاسلام ممكن اشرحها لك او اسألى الفتى
سلام
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Yousra:
You are missing the point again !
if Allah did not say that the Jews and the Christians are Apes and Swines , Who wrote it then in the Quran ????
يا يسرا يا عزيزتى ان كان الله لم يشتم اليهود والنصارى ولم يجعل منهم القردة والخنازير فمن الذى كتب هذا الكلام فى القرآن الكريم فى سورة البقرة آيات رقم 62 &63 ؟؟؟؟
هل تعتقدين ان هذه الآيات "مدسوسة" فى القرآن ؟؟؟
يا بنتى ارجوكى فكرى بعقلك وليس بعاطفتك
ارجو لك التوفيق وارجوكى متزعليش منى فانا اكتب ماهو مكتوب فى القرآن
آسف جدا
آيات القردة والخنازير فى سورة المائدة وليست البقرة كما ذكرت سابقا ولذا لزم التنويه
Previous anonymous, is yours a religion of hate and death? We have passages in the Christian Bible relating to Prophets who preach hate and death. Is that your Prophet?
If it is, I have some quotes for you, too.
To Programmer craig
Why do you mention the bible ? I do not believe in it .
we are discussing quotations from the Quran mentioned on television by a 4 years old girl describing the Jews as Apes .
it seems that you did not read the blog title
anon,
Why do you mention the bible ? I do not believe in it .
Why not? You believe in the Quran, right?
"Say, 'Anyone who opposes Gabriel should know that he has brought down this (the Qur'an) into your heart, in accordance with God's will, confirming previous scriptures, and providing guidance and good news for the believers'" (Sura 2:97).
Are you sure you're a muslim?
Anon (again)
if Allah did not say that the Jews and the Christians are Apes and Swines , Who wrote it then in the Quran ????
You seem to have some doubts. Don't worry, the solution is in the Quran!
"If you have any doubt regarding what is revealed to you from your Lord, then ask those who read the previous scripture" (Sura 10:94).
Maybe you should ask the Apes and Pigs who read the previous scripture about the whole "Apes and Pigs" thing? :D
Woah! This is a pretty hot discussion.
Apes, Swines, Pigs? Jews!
Regarding the whole Apes/Pigs issue that has been referred to a couple of times here and caused some offence. It must be understood that most of the Muslim scholars believe that there was no such thing as physical transformation, however, the Quran depicts that they began to act like animals, by their own free will. Another important fact is that such punishment was not met on all of them. Anyone interested in this whole anti-Semitism issue, can read further on wikipedia.
This isn't even infancy, that's toddler-hood!
Poor girl. How do you expect to see innocent children in such world, where the pace of events are way faster than children's laugh-to-cry episode? How do you except them to be innocent when the media that they constantly watch, is corrupted? How do you expect them to be innocent if they are raised and taught about issues they should ONLY be aware of at a later period?
No, ma'am, there is no such a thing as innocent infancy these days in our homeland. You might find some of those in a suburb of an isolated island, an unknown country, or a forgotten city. This isn't Islam, or Christianity, or Judaism.
I'm totally new on your blog(s), but I must agree with MechanicalCrowds, nevertheless the hatred discussion, there is still hope.
Certe, there is hope.
What is wrong, they are as she said and even pigs and apes are much better than jews. You may be blind and you did not see the plastanian who were killed by pigs and apes during the jast few days.
What is wrong
The existance of people like you :P
Hate leads to death. You shouldn't complain about it. Humans have known about this basic fact of life for thousands of years. You encourage hate and then complain when it gets people killed. Mind boggling.
To anon. 2:30 PM :
I thank you for being so honest and frank !
You have exposed the real and true Face of Islam that a lot of Moslim Apologists wish to keep it hidden .
To Mowatn Masry :
الى المواطن المصرى المتخلف
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بادىء ذى بدء -- من اعطاك حق تقسيم الناس الى كافر وغير كافر ؟؟؟؟
من اعطاك الحق ان تسألنى بمن اؤمن وبمن لا أؤمن ؟؟؟؟
انك تعيش فى القرن الأول للهجرة حيث كان الاسلام او الجزية مع الاذلال او حد السيف
هذا العصر قد انتهى بغير رجعة
اصحى لنفسك فأنت تعيش فى القرن الواحد والعشرين ايها المتخلف
بأى حق تعتبر ان النصارى واليهود يعيشون فى ذمة المسلمين ؟؟
المسيحى والمسلم واليهودى والبوذى والملحد يعيشون جميعا فى ذمة القانون بحق المواطنة
العالم الغربى الذى تعتبره كافرا يقدم رغيف الخبز لغالبية مسلمى العالم ولو انقطعت المعونات الغربية لمات 90% منمسلمى العالم جوعا
من الذى يعيش فى ذمة من ايها الأحمق ؟؟
الا ترى فلسطين ومسلميها يستجدون الخبز من بلاد الغرب الكافر - ماذا قدمت لهم انت واغنياء المسلمين فى العالم ؟؟
هل فعلا تصدق ان العالم كله يستمع الى احكام نقلتها عن مخرفين امثال ابو العلاء المودودى وابن تيمية وسيد قطب وابن القيم وحتى ابن الصرمة القديمة
هل كان الزرقاوى مجاهدا ام ارهابيا .
لما شفت فى التلفزيون خبر اغتيال الزرقاوى لقيت نفسى بسأل سؤال طبيعى احنا نعتبره ارهابى و لا مجاهد
ليه مش عارف اجابه السؤال: لانه كان راجل بيحارب الاحتلال الأمريكى وكان مطلع عينها لدرجه ان امريكا كان كل همها انها تغتاله لان
اصبح أقوى و اشرس اعدائها بس من جانب اخر هو نفسه كان مسؤل عن عدد كبير من التفجيرات الارهابيه ضد الشعب العراقى بس ده ممكن مايكونش حقيقه وان دى كلها تكون ورائها جماعات تانيه شيعيه و سنه وان الاعلام كان بينسبها للزرقاوى فى سبيل تشويه صورته
والله أعلم
مواطن مصرى
To Mowatn Masry
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الى المواطن المصرى المتخلف
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انك تتشدق وتفخر بالعهدة العمرية التى اعطت المسيحيين الأمان بعد ان غزت جيوش عمر ابن الخطاب ديارهم الآمنة دون ان تكلف نفسك عناء البحث والاطلاع على شروط هذه المعاهدة التى ستظل عارا على جميع المسلمين
الشروط التى وقع عليها المسيحيون فى القدس مقابل اللأمان من جيوش المسلمين
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العهدة العمرية
من كتاب لأبن القيم الجوزية
عن عبد الرحمن بن غنم : كتبتُ لعمر بن الخطاب رضي الله عنه حين صالح نصارى الشام، وشرَط عليهم فيه
الا يُحدِثوا في مدينتهم ولا فيما حولها ديراً ولا كنيسة ولا قلاية ولا صومعة راهب،
ولا يجدِّدوا ما خُرِّب،
ولا يمنعوا كنائسهم من أن ينزلها أحدٌ من المسلمين ثلاث ليالٍ يطعمونهم،
ولا يؤووا جاسوساً،
ولا يكتموا غشاً للمسلمين،
ولا يعلّموا أولادهم القرآن،
ولا يُظهِروا شِركاً،
ولا يمنعوا ذوي قرابتهم من الإسلام إن أرادوا،
وأن يوقّروا المسلمين،
وأن يقوموا لهم من مجالسهم إذا أرادوا الجلوس،
ولا يتشبّهوا بالمسلمين في شيء من لباسهم،
ولا يتكنّوا بكناهم،
ولا يركبوا سرجاً،
ولا يتقلّدوا سيفاً،
ولا يبيعوا الخمور،
وأن يجُزُّوا مقادم رؤوسهم،
وأن يلزموا زيَّهم حيثما كانوا،
وأن يشدّوا الزنانير على أوساطهم،
ولا يُظهِروا صليباً ولا شيئاً من كتبهم في شيءٍ من طرق المسلمين،
ولا يجاوروا المسلمين بموتاهم،
ولا يضربوا بالناقوس إلا ضرباً خفيفاً،
ولا يرفعوا أصواتهم بالقراءة في كنائسهم في شيء من حضرة المسلمين،
ولا يخرجوا شعانين،
ولا يرفعوا أصواتهم مع موتاهم،
ولا يَظهِروا النيران معهم،
ولا يشتروا من الرقيق ما جَرَتْ عليه سهام المسلمين.
فإن خالفوا شيئاً مما شرطوه فلا ذمّة لهم،
وقد حلّ للمسلمين منهم ما يحل من أهل المعاندة والشقاق,
Some facts to those sympathizing with the Jews (from Sabbah's blog):
Update: 3 Israeli terrorist air strikes today, killed 11 Palestinians. 9 of them are civilians including 3 children. New massacre. ANOTHER ACCEDENT!!
Well, the buzz now is that the Palestinians are killing themselves and Gaza Massacre was done by Hamas, just like all previous footages of massacres and Israeli crimes, as soon as they are documented and aired on TV, some Nazis jump to twist facts. Luckily (or not) a camera man happens to be near the scene sometimes, but even with these in hands, all the hell doors are open on the victim, not the criminal. They called it propaganda, the called it pollywood, and what not, as if the Israeli crimes needs evidences, and as if the occupation is accepted, and as if the civilians are not suppose to be protected by the occupier, according to UN Human Rights Declarations, but what do you know, these Human Rights applies only on Humans, and by Humans, so either the Palestinians are not Humans, or the occupier is not a Human. What do you think? Or it applies on some humans, but not others… long debate, will touch on it soon.
Anyway, just for the records, and for those who were awakened by the latest Israeli terrorist crimes, it is worth mentioning that what you have seen in the last few days is nothing new. In fact it is what is happening daily in the occupied holy lands of Palestine. While I’m writing this now, the news is reporting a new massacre conducted by the Israeli terrorist. The initial reports said that at least 9 martyr Palestinians were killed.
To state some facts, here is an excerpt from the last few weekly Palestinian Centre for Human Rights reports. Read and count the number of martyrs, women and children killed and or injured in the last month only (excluding arrests, house demolition, Annexation Wall and land theft, etc…):
01- 07 June 06 report:
5 Palestinians were killed by IOF in the Gaza Strip.
Two of the victims were extra-judicially executed by IOF.
29 Palestinian civilians, including 9 children and a woman, were wounded by IOF gunfire.
IOF have continued to shell Palestinian areas in the northern Gaza Strip, wounding a number of civilians and damaging civilian property.
IOF raided a hospital in Nablus and arrested a patient from the intensive care unit.
Israeli settlers have continued to attack Palestinian civilians and property in the OPT; 7 civilian facilities were demolished by IOF; and 4 Palestinian civilians, including a child and a woman, were injured by attacks launched by Israeli settlers.
25- 31 May 06 report:
11 Palestinians, including a child, killed by IOF.
28 Palestinian civilians, including 10 children, were wounded by IOF gunfire.
IOF killed 4 Palestinians inside the northern Gaza Strip in the first military operation of its kind, since the IOF’s redeployment around the Gaza Strip.
60 Palestinian civilians, including 4 children and 2 women, were arrested by IOF.
18- 24 May 06 Report:
9 Palestinians killed by IOF.
IOF committed another extra-judicial execution in Gaza.
IOF killed 4 Palestinians and wounded 35 others during an incursion into Ramallah.
26 Palestinian civilians, including 10 children, were wounded by IOF gunfire.
11- 17 May 06 report:
9 Palestinians killed by IOF in the West Bank.
41 Palestinian civilians, including 13 children, were wounded by IOF gunfire.
IOF continued to shell Palestinian areas in the Gaza Strip, especially the northern area.
I am an arab and an Athiest, all I want to say is that westerners should stop attacking muslims in such core parts of their life (as relegion plays a very big role here), you also have to remember that for muslims Islam is more than a relegion but also an ethnicity and a semi-nationalistic group. An attack on relegion as a whole would be much more succesfull and would convey the point of many liberals mich better, also setting them apart from the right wing (which all arabs are taught that it is the cause of every catostrophe). I assure you that a much better way would be to try and empower arabs and muslims as individuals (instead of empowiring corrupt-human rights violatuing goverments which associate with the united states) as apposed to simply attacking the outskirts of their relegion (which I consider a really great relegion really). you have to understand that the cause of all of this is that the arab person has been crushed for the last four centuries conitnuoisly from turkish sultans (which were very barbaric more than any primitive arab was) to western coloniazation to todays corrupt goverments which would not survive without western help) all of these made the arab unwilling to live, he just wants to pray to god the best way he can and strictest way and then escape this hell of a life to paradise. To all honorable people...Help the arabs so they can help themselves and trust me they will be true allies of western civilization...Remember, at the end we share much more with you than we do with the chinese or indians or japanese....
Stop rubbing lime on circumcized penis.
First, most of the people who posted here seem to be ignorant of Islam-either those defending or attaking it.
I will be concise and to the point.as for the head scarf, Muslim girls are not obliged to wear it except when they come of age. But the writer, who I know very well, was seriously mistaken by comparing this to child pornography. I think most of the Egyptian people never compell girls to wear Hijab, as they chose to themselves, mostly at the age of 17 or 20. this is a religous and culutral heritage, and we are not obliged to justify it to the West by any means.
Second: the hate issue. it is true that some really mixes things up. Jews has the right to live in peace along wiht other people. And THis is what really was the case when Muslims were ruling the world.
Andolessiah, spain now, was the hotbed of coexistence between the three relgions and was, accoridng to many westerners, the safest place for "others" living in peace with muslims.
third: the issue of Apes and pigs is relative. I tell you how: can any one who has a wise mind claim that the despicable Sharon, Olmert and their stooges are not pigs and apes? for the answer, go back to Qana, Sabra and Shatilah, Ain Al Holwa Refugee Camp and Gaza 2000 and 2006 and Qana once more.
But this does not mean that all jews are like those pigs and apes. It is a relative matter, which applies to ones actions and behaviours.
For the writer, I was really shocked by the level you reached from a serious detachment of Islam and true muslims, as you now interested only in making points through every and any thing that can be used against muslims.
My final point, I think what is currentyl taking place in Lebanon and Palestin is the best answer for the issue of apes and pigs, and hatred. Human is fragile. how do you blame an Egyptian, Palestinan, Lebanese, or any Muslims for hating Israelis--here comes the crucnh, as it its always mixed by simple educated people with Jews-- for what therir wanton leadership is doing, by the help of the very Arab rulers.
Again, and again.. Some of us would only be selective of what they can see or how they will view certain issue; YOU need to STUDY the Complete subject; not just be selective for 2 or 5min of a full length program
Oh please, a clip gets put out by israeli propagandist group MEMRI and all you Muslims haters and neocon scumbags and cheerleaders and apologists for zionist terror take the bait and start your usual bullshit about "hatred." If you want hatred watch US and Israeli media in action.
Apparently context and entirity of the passage referring to those Jews of a specific town who violated the Sabbath through trickery getting turned into apes and pigs is lost on you.
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