Tuesday, January 31, 2006

Join Sandmonkey Retardedness Campaign Against the Danish Newspaper

I have been receiving email on ways to defend our prophet Mohamed against the sinful Danish newspaper and hundreds of petitions to sign that have no destinations.

Bravely, Sandmonkey took the Anti-Retardedness Mission. I have no answer why Muslims, whom I am counted on, take such issues fervently. Here is a background story from Sandmonkey on the whole insulting cartoons issue. The saga continues...

I wonder why Muslims do not get so fervent about a dying patient for the lack of medicine, about a corrupt government that is stealing all their money and leaving them in shit, about the right to enjoy life in freedom protected by the laws and legislation, about bribing police and traffic officers to cancel contraventions, about more than one million street children in Egypt abused by the people everyday, about injustice in general…the list so long to continue.

I wonder if the American Declaration of Independence, the French Revolution, or the South African 1994 elections that ended the era of Apartheid were insulted in Cartoons as sources for hatred, dictatorship and oppression (which is not the truth) what will be the reaction. The world takes pride in those achievements and they are protected by a human code for the same values they share.

The whole issue is not about freedom for expression, it is about what people take pride in. Muslims for the past few centuries cannot realize that did not bring any achievements to the humanity. And I am not talking about values only but I am talking about industries. For example, Germans, Italians, British and Americans are manufacturing the world’s best car brands. Muslims are using the American Google and Microsoft to run their anti-Denmark campaigns that are downloaded on Chinese and Malaysian computers with Indian IT expertise that go on the internet through Israeli lines. Apparently, fervent Muslims have nothing to take pride in for the time being. There are two other religions, Christianity and Judaism, the only two recognized by Muslims, and they are insulted everyday by some Muslims. Egyptian Copts were insulted hundreds of times in front of me on religious basis, where are the standards and the values that those fervent Muslims hold.

The Danish Newspaper apologized however; diplomatic relations with Denmark is on the way to severed by some Arab countries. I believe the UN Security Council will have to intervene in the near future upon calls from the Arab League, OIC and Arab countries to press the Danish Government to apologize…. You know what it is getting funny by the minute...


At 1:31 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If some Muslims insult the adherents of other religions then it's absolutely wrong.
However I question Sandmonkey's logic.
Industry is not the hallmark of civilisations - values are.
And respect for the other is a value without which no human can become 'civilised'.

At 5:09 AM, Blogger Jordan said...

Anonymous, which values are you refering to? Freedom of speech, freedom of sexuality, freedom of religion?

The author is right! Nations are remembered for the contributions they make to the planet.

That is why I thank g-d everyday I am a Canadian. Without us, there would be no poutine :)

At 11:22 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


Respect for the other was the main value I was referring to.

So nations are remembered for their contribution to the planet?

Does that include the North American genocide against the Native Americans?

The European / North American tragedy of TransAtlantic slavery which decimated tens of millions millions and subjugated tens of millions more?

Does American segregation and Dutch apartheid feature?

What about German Nazism and Russian Communism?

What about Swedish sterilisation of those with congenital abnormalities - as late as the 70's?

All countries and their peoples are part of the fabric of humanity.
All are precious and admirable, even the poorest of the poor, because of their 'humanity'.

At 3:29 PM, Blogger Rancher said...

Well put. It’s a common tactic by tyrannical regimes to misdirect the public’s attention on them by stirring up passions against someone else. What I find perplexing is that this can be so easily done in the Muslim world and over something so silly as a cartoon.

At 12:17 AM, Blogger Bitman said...

You're right - the whole issue is about diversion. Diversion from letting 350-some pilgrims die in Mecca; from internal issues such as a palenstine that may loose almost half their BNP which they get in support from Europe, because of their intollerant views.

This is tragic commic - I don't know if I should laugh or cry. "Give us respect or we'll kill you" is the threat. What logic; and what irony that the most spoken upon drawing actually depicts what's happening - a muslem with a bomb ready to blow ...

Freedom is absolute. It's not freedom of speach until you accept someone else's view that is bringing your blood to the boiling point.

From someone outside of the Arab pennensula, it sure do look like that region lives the world 400-500 years ago.

I do wish that Egypt and the eqyptians one day get to have the same personal freedom the western world enjoys. And the same for the rest of the world. However, freedom is not free; having to accept that you're not always right and that other people are free to ignore or ricudule you is very hard.

At 3:12 AM, Blogger Animesh said...

It is really brave on your part to voice such sentiments being in Egypt!!

At 7:25 AM, Blogger Aladdin said...

Unfortunately, those radical Islamists don't realise many facts about the so-called 'Western' civilisation!

This madness is all about 'business'. If Islam is a major economic power, the west would have surely tried to make solid relations with - and 'respect'. Some Egy bloggers compared between Islam and anti-Holocaust, being a taboo in the west. I said it's the west's political and economic interests that govern that.

One question, however, can we think of Pat Robertson's 'apology' for his 'provocative' remarks on Sharon as an intimidation to the "freedom of speech"?

At 7:04 PM, Blogger JPierre said...

Finally, I found some people with brains here.

At 1:22 PM, Blogger Muslim Unity said...

Respect others so that they can respect you.

At 7:02 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are freedom of speech among islamic community, and there are islamic countries such as mine that respect that freedom of speech, but somewhere along there, we drew the line, and when it comes to the holy prophet Muhammad's visualization, the freedom of speech should be drawn there. And in my country the muslims never freely insults other religions as so does the buddhist or christians or hidus etc. We live in multiracial and multi religion community in harmony and even we never speculate any issues such as this. Its amazing how pple from other countries, other religions knows what truly going on and easily speculate the issue and worst, knows exactly whats the islamic principal, muslims lived on. At least what I know muslims in my country are open minded, but we never expect other pple to go on insult our holy prophet in any ways even for the sake of fredom of speech, there are other ways to show individual freedom of speech. Many other ways and topics too. So many. Why choose religion. There are 'radical islamist', sad to say, and they deserve no repect and should be apprehend accordingly but how about the feelings of those muslims that I just mention earlier? what about the felings of muslims that never in their life ever imagine on freely insult other religions, not because we are acting nice in front of the world, its because its one of our principal, respect others.

At 11:34 PM, Blogger mamapajamas said...

Anon... re: "So nations are remembered for their contribution to the planet?"

You REALLY need to come into the 21st Century. This litany of "What about Americans and slavery? What about this? What about that?" is all so... 1968. Come foreward in time a bit.

The behavior problems in the Middle East are going on NOW, not last century or two centuries back. By your rationale, should we be even MORE aware of our behavior today due to errors in the past?

And the worst part is that this entire thing is being orchestrated by evil people up to no good. We don't know PRECISELY what that Imam from Denmark was trying to pull, but the revelation via FFE and Sand that those cartoons were published last October with ZERO public disorder speaks volumes.

You can equivalate all day and night if you wish, but that approach is too old-fashioned to sway anyone today. The reason it passed out of fashion? Because it's irrelevant. When you're talking about something happening today, events of a century or more past are completely non-sequitur.

At 6:03 PM, Anonymous Jakob/Prague/Czech republic said...

hello, after spending half a day reading many articles about these cartoons, it seems to me as short-sightedness of the authors who did not even know they did something bad. I am only generally informed about largest world faiths and I would have probably done the same mistake not knowing the sesitivity of the theme. I don't know exactly the level of belief in Denmark but in Czech republic there is large portion of atheistic people (as in many post communist countries) who are non sensitive to religions. But many people here believes in some higher principle (to do some advocacy for them:) regarding the freedom of speech, it should be defended until it offends. like the rights in democracy. there are many areas where the rights of some group of people/individuals have higher priority then free speech (to treat racism and xenofoby, for example against homosexuals)

At 8:22 PM, Blogger Prup (aka Jim Benton) said...

Very good comments, both from SandMonkey -- as expected -- and from several others. I'd like to ask your opinions on one thing. I have read several people elsewhere suggest that one important manipulator in this is the Saudis, and that they are attempting to divert attention from the Hajj deaths. I'm wondering if you DO think it was, in part, the Saudis, and if you do, if they might also be attempting to divert attention from the destruction of the Islamic historic sites? (I'm an atheist and an ex-Catholic, not Islamic at all, but when i heard about this on a forum i was on, as an amateur historian I was enraged enough to try to contact Congressman and request they protest this desecration.)

At 12:53 AM, Anonymous rim said...

I cannot let it go unanswered :
Anonymous wrote:





Difference is that nobody today trying to justify neither apartheid nor slavery nor genocide of native Americans , no one saying that it was good thing to do .It is condemned( I know nothing about Sweden however) Those were mistakes horrific tragedies crateded in different time with different set of values.
But TODAY still slavery in Sudan and Asrab militia TODAY in busenses of henocide against sudanises and Muslim terrosist today conducting of a “holly war”. You cannot use yesterday’s atrocities crated by others as alibi for today’s mayhem created by you.
P.S. I wrote this comment and then read mamapajamas comment that resonates mine , but I will post it anyway to voices better than one .:)

At 8:14 AM, Anonymous Jakob said...

Hello enlightened people again! I know this will be off topic, but: Do you want to see the world as Chinese through Google do?
Type for example democracy and search. In the results go to address line and add &meta=cr%3DcountryCN to the end. Search again and SEE!

At 8:42 AM, Blogger Shmoo said...

Methinks they doth protest to loudly!!!

At 7:53 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

---by Anonymous: ...we never expect other pple to go on insult our holy prophet in any ways even for the sake of fredom of speech, there are other ways to show individual freedom of speech. Many other ways and topics too. So many. Why choose religion?

Why choose anything somebody would rather I not speak about? That is the very soul of freedom of speech: to be able to talk about what you want, not about what the powers that be think you should restrain yourself to talking about.

At 6:15 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

قراقوش يمنع تعاطي الجبنة الدنماركية في مصر ويحبس مواطناً تعاطى الجبنة الدنماركية سراً

اسم الكاتب: جاك عطالله

فى عودة مظفرة من قراقوش العاشر الى عصرجده الاعظم قراقوش الاول حاكم مصر الذى منع المصريين من اكل الملوخية ومنع السيدات من الخروج من منازلهن وصرح لهن بالخروج فقط اذا خرجن حافيات فى شوارع ترابية مليئة بالزجاج المكسور و بالقمامة و البراز والذباب
قام قراقوش العاشر حفيد قراقوش الاول اخيرا بغزوة عنترية ضد الدنيمارك واصدر قرارا قراقوشيا جديدا بمنع اكل الجبنة الدنيماركية عقابا يبابا للدنيمركيين جميعا لسماحهم لاحد عناتيلهم بنشر رسوم كاريكاتيرية لم يكتب على احدها اسم الرسول ولا اشار له بالاسم من قريب ولا من بعيد

ولكن قراقوش بمنطق اللى على رأسه بطحة حسس على الكاريكاتير و جند سفيرته الفاشلة والتى طردت بعدها منى عمر لأثارة مسلمى الدنيمارك الخونة الذين حسسوا ايضا على بطحة رأس قراقوش وتوجههوا بعد قبض المعلوم من السفيرة بتذاكر مدفوعة الاجر واقامة كاملة للقاهرة حيث اجتمعوا مع كل من على رأسة بطحة بالقاهرة من شيخ الازهر والمفتى ورئيس جامعة الازهر و رؤساء قنوات التليفزيون و رؤساء تحرير الصحف وخرجت زفه مبطوحى الرءوس من جامعة الازهر فى مظاهرات صاخبة تندد بالدنيمارك والجبنة الدنيماركية
وعلى اثر سخونة البطحات الرأسية صدر القرار القراقوشى السامى بمنع تعاطى الجبن الدنيماركى وضمها لجدول المخدرات ومعاملتها معاملة الافيون والهروين والبانجو والماكستون فورت وابلاغ الامر فورا لوزارة العسس و للموانى والمطارات وامن المنازل والشوارع

وضمانا لرضا مبطوحى الراس من اخوان وغلمان قام جهاز امن الاسلام بقيادة العساس الاكبر بحملة ارهابية لضبط كل من تسول له نفسه الامارة بالسوء تعاطى الجبنة الدنماركية

و فى اول يوم تم ضبط المواطن المصرى مدمن الجبن مخلص ثروت يتعاطى الجبن الدنيماركى داخل منزله تحت السرير ومعه عدة التعاطى كاملة من عيش بلدى و مخلل وبصل اخضر
وقد تمت الاجراءات اللازمة والمعتادة فى مثل هذه الحالات الحرجة بالترحيب بالمواطن من نفخ المواطن من فتحة الاست لمقاس 36 وضبط كهربه جسمه على 9 بمقياس ريختر اوم وتهوية اعضائه الداخلية بفردها بالشمس لتعقيم المواطن
واستخرجت الجبنة من امعائة وارسلت لمعمل الامن العام الذى اثبت انها والعياذ بالله جبنة كافرة من دولة الدنيمارك اللعينة --

ومازال المواطن محتجزا منذ 15 يوما لدى مصلحة الامن العام بمصر
وينتظر ارسال اوراقه للمفتى ليصدق على اعدامه--

هذه ليست قصة خيالية وانما للأسف حقيقية تماما
حدثت وقائعها القراقوشية
فى مصر المحروسة منذ 15 يوما حيث ابلغ عن المواطن مدمن الجبنة الدنيماركى القبطى جاره المسلم انتصارا للدين والرسول وطاعة وتقرب لقراقوش
ومصدر القصة لمن يريد هو الرابط التا لى http://www.copts-united.com/montada/montda.php?subaction=showfull&id=1141684221&ucat=62&archive=
ولنبكى مع الشاعر الذى مدح قراقوش قائلا
كم بمصر من المضحكات--ولكنه ضحك كالبكاء
والى اللقاء بقرار قراقوشى قادم
شايفينك ياقراقوش

At 6:32 AM, Blogger Mo'men said...

In this Supermarket economy we are living in, you make an impact through money and knowledge which leads to POWER, the Arab community have vast amount of strategic political power "which is needless to say; Oil" but due to the lack of knowledge and misguidence of their tyrannical regimes, Arabs are powerless. Someone here mentioned Values and nations remmembered through history by them. the world is not driven by values or spirituality "Saddly", the world is driven by Money, greed and Ego. Respect is a fading concept and it's been re-defined in the 21st century.

At 4:54 AM, Anonymous Mārcis said...

You know, you all talk here about some kind of freedom that must be given to Muslim world. This freedom you are referring to is the Western kind of freedom. It is not Muslim kind of freedom. The civilizations and thinking patterns are completely different, you cannot equalize them. And nobody from the western perspective can say, which one is better (and I don't mean that ancient code of Sunna is the paragon). You all here, writing in english, share totally different values, life and aspirations.

At 5:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Being a Dane I find it scary that so many people find the intolerance against me and my country funny. It could have ended with real terror, bombs etc. from imbecil Muslims - then the laugh would have been on...whom?

At 5:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

And I want to add: So many people have said "There is a freedom of speech but it doesn´t give you the right to offend other peoples´religious feelings" The same people don´t seem to lose any sleep pissing on my national feelings by burning my flag, calling my queen "Queen of cows" and destroy Danish embassies. It must be hypocracy on a high level.


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