Tuesday, February 07, 2006

Cartoons were Published Five Months ago in Egypt

Update: See images I scanned here for the Egyptian paper, Al fagr Feb 8, 2006

The whole world is mesmerized by this big campaign against Denmark. I have mentioned before that an Egyptian newspaper published the Danish Cartoons from Jyllands-Posten. Why after five months the feelings of the Egyptians and Muslims are suddenly inflamed? I am trying to get images for the reportage, but here are the details of this paper for those who can check it:

Name: Al Fagr الفجر
Editor-in-Chief: Adel Hamouda عادل حمودة
Edition/issuance no. #: 21
Date: 17 October 2005, Hijri (Islamic Calendar) 14 Ramadan 1425
Reporters: Youssra Zahran and Ahmed Abdel Maksoud
يسرا زهران وأحمد عبد المقصود
Pages: Front & 17 for details and images
The headline in Arabic said : الوقاحة المستمرة. السخرية من الرسول وزوجاته بالكاريكاتير
Translation: Continued Boldness. Mocking the Prophet and his wife by Caricature.

The Egyptian paper critcized the bad taste of the cartoons but it did not incite hatred protests, so what is happening now? BTW, it is not my idea to bring the details of this Egyptian paper, it is Gateway Pundit’s. I think it is important to reveal that the timing of this outrage is irrelevant. It would have been better that this holy war against Denmark be launched during the holy month of Ramadan as many Muslims believe that Jihad during Ramadan would have been more worthy.

This irrelevant outrage timing is but a sign that this violent response to the cartoons is politically-motivated by Muslim extremists in Europe and the so-called secular governments of the Middle East. I want also to mention that despite the fact that all editors who tried to reprint the cartoons in the Middle East nowadays were arrested, the Egyptian editors went unharmed. I will try to get the pages of the paper scanned.

See images here for the Egyptian paper, Al fagr, in this post on my blog Feb 8, 2006

Photo: Egyptian Islamist demonstrators set a Danish flag on fire during a protest against the publication of cartoons mocking the Prophet Muhammad in European newspapers, inside the Sunni Al Azhar Mosque in Cairo, Egypt, Friday, Feb. 3, 2006. Egypt's ambassador said Friday that Danish Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen's response to the Muhammad drawings controversy has been inadequate, and that the country should do more to 'appease the whole Muslim world.' (AP Photo/Nasser Nasser)

Previously : Boycott the Boycott
Denmark, Do not Apologize
Denmark Cartoons absent Real Democracy Battle in Egypt
Why Egyptians are not torching Danish Embassies?
Syria’s Jihad against Denmark
More Images for Prophet Muhammed, not Danish!

38 Comments:

At 6:46 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The "Danish" imams brought 3 additional images, when they travelled to the middle east in December. This was one of them:

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8959820

Read more here:
http://www.neandernews.com/?p=54

 
At 7:53 PM, Blogger Gateway Pundit said...

That is amazing news!

 
At 2:11 AM, Blogger Tresho said...

The fact that these cartoons were published in Egyptian news media so long ago with scarcely any reaction is a very important piece of information, thanks for bringing it to the attention of the rest of the world. Please do scan the article and put it onto the internet for all to see. The Cartoon Jihad is looking more and more artifical and manipulated.

 
At 9:08 AM, Anonymous Sohail Mirza said...

This news is definitely of interest.

It's odd though that you don't note two facts:

1) It may have taken some time for these events to reach the masses, and more likely, for the radical mullahs to organize an uproar.

2) The Egyptian newspaper, according to your post, appeared to be condemning the imagery, whereas the Danish paper invited it.

I think these are crucial facts your readers need to know about, and facts that make a difference to some Muslims.

I as a Muslim am not as offended to see a reprinting as I am to see an invitation to offense or a deliberate encitement of Muslims.

 
At 9:10 AM, Anonymous Sohail Mirza said...

Correction: You did note that the Egyptian paper was condemning the cartoons.

My point was simply that I feel that's an important distinction between the Egyptian paper's actions and the Danish paper's.

 
At 9:55 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The problem with you guys is that you do not understand what prophet Muhammad (PBUH) means to every single Muslim. You always 'stereotype" and think of prophet Muhammad as a terrorist though I am sure you don't have any idea about his teachings or accomplishments and how kind he was.

If you want to know more, please visit:

http://www.islamonline.net/English/introducingislam/Prophet/Man_Message/article07.shtml

http://www.islamonline.net/english/introducingislam/topic04.shtml

Hope this helps!

 
At 10:01 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

We must show our opposition to Islam, says Danish queen

It seems to be now a long history of hatred, even the Danish queen

Full story
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/04/15/wqueen15.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/04/15/ixworld.html

 
At 10:54 AM, Blogger The Sandmonkey said...

hehehe. Now I remember where I saw those cartoons before. I thought they looked familiar. I remember seeing them on the frontpage of a newspaper, but I was conflicted between el fajr or sout el Ommah. I wonder, if we remind people of that, will they boycott el fajr, or arrest Adel Hamouda?

Is it just me or is this seriously becoming a bigger joke by the minute?

 
At 11:01 AM, Blogger The Sandmonkey said...

Oh shit, LOL, I found it.I will scan it and post it tommorow. This is too funny.

 
At 12:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

day after day, I just found out that this blog has a lot of stupid people who have no idea.

Why don't you get some smarts, Adam Henry?

LOL, heheheheeeeeeeeeee

 
At 12:51 PM, Blogger programmer craig said...

The problem with you guys is that you do not understand what prophet Muhammad (PBUH) means to every single Muslim. You always 'stereotype" and think of prophet Muhammad as a terrorist though I am sure you don't have any idea about his teachings or accomplishments and how kind he was.

Thanks for pointing out everyone else's issues with stereotypes, anon.

 
At 3:51 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The imams reportedly spread lies that the Jyllands-Posten had 120 cartoons, not 12, and that the paper was owned by the government. (There are no state-run newspapers in Denmark.) In addition, the imams reportedly claimed that the Danish government would censor the Koran, burn the Koran, and that Danes were planning to make a blasphemous movie about Mohammed.

Spread the information.

 
At 3:53 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, it doesnt matter what the your Prophet means to you. Feel free to complan about the cartoons. I think they were insulting too.

What does matter is this CRAZY response.

 
At 4:21 PM, Blogger Nadia said...

لى هنا يكفي ... معاً ضد العنف والتطرف.... معاً من أجل الحوار والتمدن
Nu er det nok..
It is enough now!

 
At 4:28 PM, Blogger Suzanne said...

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

 
At 4:33 PM, Blogger Suzanne said...

(deleted the post above, because it was addressed to the wrong person)

@Anonymous,

I do not see your prophet Mohammed as a terrorist (bluntly because I do not think I can judge about that). What I see when seeing the picture in which he had been pictured with an explosive on his head, is a Mohammed who is being abused by muslim terrorists nowadays.

You should realise that the violent reactions as a result of these cartoons will definitely not give a better image to muslims in general. It will only harm the image and who knows what this might lead to :(

Think about it.

So instead, I would advise you to follow my advise in my protest here.

 
At 7:21 PM, Anonymous Anna said...

To Anonymous about the danish queen.

It is very unfortunate that the danish queen´s statement was translated in a wrong way and out of context. She said in danish then asked about Muslim extremists: " Vi maa give Islam et modspil". It is hard to translate the word "Modspil" to english because english don´t have a word that fully describes it, but it meens something like "to argue with". She did not meen that we must show "opposition" against Islam as the false english translation say. But that we must argue with extremists Islam. Do you not agree?

The queen have actually spoken against racism before. In a new year speech a few years ago she said that we should welcome people and not fear them just because they are different from what we are used to.

I agree with Suzanne that extremists is abusing Mohammed and Islam and it is a great shame for all Muslims. I have some Muslim friends and they are some of the kindest people that I know. The danish people could learn a lot from their hospitality.

Anyway thanks for a great blog.

 
At 7:28 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Excellent work, FFE. This tells me one thing, at least; and that is the Egyptians who get this newspaper and who took to the streets are either incredibly stupid, hypocritical, or both. They are stupid because they believe what they're told by the Arab press in the previous week without checking for the facts. They are hypocritical if they protested the second time they saw the cartoons and not protested when it was first printed. Here, I'm going to go out on a limb and say "both."


jonas

 
At 8:31 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think that the outrage and loss of life over cartoons is appaulling, regardless of who, our belief is in. We all share the same idioligies, and convictions.

Lets get on with living a life as all people are meant to live, and that is in harmony.

Be truethful to yourselves, honest to others, empathize with those in need, and be charitable where well founded.Love eachother, it is written in every moral book regardless of religion,colour or creed.

Stop the bullshit, and lets live and love, and make this world a better place. Mush easier said than done but it has to start somewhere, and why not with all who are reading, and listenng

 
At 8:36 PM, Blogger Steve said...

May I repost and link to this article?
My blog is:
http://worshippingchristian.blogspot.com/
in case you'd like to review it first.

 
At 3:40 AM, Blogger Ragg said...

food for thaught

The Shari`ah stand on:

Pictures of the Prophet (pbuh)
http://www.understanding-islam.org/related/text.asp?type=question&qid=3395

Pictures & Photography
http://www.understanding-islam.org/related/text.asp?type=question&qid=630

The Prohibition of Pictures Mentioned in Hadith
http://www.understanding-islam.org/related/text.asp?type=question&qid=868

If Pictures & Photography is Forbidden then why do Muslims get their Pictures Taken?
http://www.understanding-islam.org/related/text.asp?type=question&qid=631

all this i found on http://www.understanding-islam.org/

and as an result i now dont understand anything and are slightly confused.
is there more than one version of The Qur'an ?

 
At 8:51 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thousands of brain cells die every time a person takes a knock to the head. Does this link explain some of the bullshit the free world has to hear from "true muslims" these days:

http://www.glumbert.com/media/rave.html

 
At 8:53 AM, Blogger jelsted said...

hurra for Freedom for Egyptians. This is truly great news. I think the Egyptian ambassador in Denmark have some explaining to do. She have appeared several times on the news to show her outrage as to why an independent newspaper would print such a horrible thing, blaming our Government for the lack of media control…….hehehe

 
At 10:13 AM, Anonymous Lars - Denmark said...

Ok this is too much! I'm danish. The danish queen did not write "opposition" to muslims, and it was in a whole other context. That whole speech was about integration and that we must accept muslims!
That was one.
Second: You think we see Muhammed The Prophet as depicted in that cartoon??? That's the exact problem about this case, these drawings were taken out of context also! They were about freedom of speech - these were the limit these illustrators might be able to make to examplify how far freedom of speech can go! I've heard Muhammed was a pro-peace, great, generous and that all muslims relate to him in some way. Remember that these cartoons were not intended to be spread like they were. They were made AS a provocation and as a concious test on bad taste and this whole misunderstanding just fuels the fire for the true discussion: Freedom of speech. Since this, out of context, could stir up so much, since it's been spread to the muslims world outside Denmark wrongly by a few Imamds here, so the whole muslim community have got the totally wrong information!

In Denmark, the queen would NEVER write a thing like you think she did, we're a tolerant country, in our schools 1/4 of every new student is muslim; it's devastating to hear all these wrong accusations from fanatics.

 
At 11:18 AM, Blogger Mourad Dridi said...

Thank you for the images of the newspaper "Al fagr" about the danish cartoons. I linked your images with a post i wrote about the boycott of egypt in this case, as put it "rantings of sandmonkey"

 
At 12:45 PM, Anonymous erik said...

The images were just in the Danish news (www.dr.dk) and the danish ambassador in egypt has confirmed the publication.

Congratulations

 
At 12:53 PM, Blogger Freedom for Egyptians said...

Erik,

THIS IS GREAT!!

I SO HAPPY TO BE ABLE TO REVEAL THE TRUTH. THIS TRUTH THAT WE RARELY EXPERIENCE IN EGYPT.

THANK YOU THANK YOU

 
At 1:03 PM, Anonymous erik said...

WE OWE YOU - Freedom for Egyptians.

Thank you very much!

 
At 8:42 PM, Blogger Blog ho said...

I suppose a big kick to some Daneland scrote would teach them a thing or two about publishing satire!

 
At 6:02 PM, Blogger Rancher said...

Another clue that the outrage and timing are artificial. The regimes have their own reasons for stoking this and the Imams seem to do their bidding.

 
At 3:20 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Modspil. My Danish dictionary (Gyldendals Rode Prdboger Dansk-Engelsk) describes this word as an act of defense (think debate not Rugby). What the good Queen was saying, if I may interpret, is that Danes’ response to Islam should be one of a contextual dialogue. Having lived in Denmark I can say that the Danes are uniquely fond of listening (actually listening) to and actively debating anyone and everyone’s opinion (each individual, every one). It is a bit strange for a non Danish speaker to understand this cultural nuance. They actually listen to, openly debate and welcome opposing views on any topic. It goes back to their historical tribal communal structure where group consensus was a very important ingredient to survival. It gets cold in Denmark you must therefore reach understanding and consensus if you don’t want to freeze to death in the winter. There are no outcasts, they are an inclusive people. Go read up on the phenomenon of the ash (as in fire place) biters from the days of the long house. It is a part of their inherent sociological dialogue.

Stereotypically, Danes go a long way in their outward embrace of ideas, they are not afraid to listen. They are far less likely than most to prima fascia discredit or disagree with an opinion. It was in this spirit; I believe the Queen, a noted intellectual, was encouraging Danes to engage in “a defense of the position” of both the right to speak freely, to possibly and perhaps unfortunately in this case offend but to more importantly engage in debate. Danes are socially polite but frank in their expression of ideas. They neither are foolish, wasteful nor inhibited in actions or expression. Typically socially self regulating, they simply reek of common sense. They are understated and cerebral with a dry terse wit. If a Dane is absolutely astounded by something they will simply describe it as practical. None of this business is silly; it is however at the moment rather sadly unfortunate.

 
At 4:03 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

One more thing I forgot to add(previous post) to my Egyptian brothers, as you know, it is nice to be nice.

 
At 1:39 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Okay, these cartoon are offensive to some, yet how many normal people would kill anyone over such as issue? This simply shows that the radicals involved are way out of line!

 
At 4:04 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous who posted a comment on how kind the prophet Mohammed was seems not to know his own history. How kind was Mohammed when he slaughtered 650 Quraysh Jews whom he promised amnesty if they would leave their fortress after a prelonged siege? How kind was he when he took some of the women as concubines and sold the rest off with their children as slaves? Every religion has their founding myths. When fanatics reject history and adopt myth as a rationale for paranoia and uncivilized behavior towards those who do not choose to believe what they believe, that civilization deserves to be marginalized by the rest of the world. When they learn how to live in a diverse world they can join in the brotherhood of man and the organization of cooperating societies in search of a better life for all peoples.

 
At 9:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You do Know that AlFagr is a tabloid right?

you do know how much anyone bothers with a tabloid right?

i do not mind you setting the scene, but at least set it fairly.

the reason they weren't up in arms is because Al Fagr is a tabloid that also says stuff like " the moon is going to crash into the earth"

 
At 12:21 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

u r b a s t a r d !

 
At 10:17 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

People need to relax and let others execute their freedom of speech power. NOT eveybody believes in Mohammad and that he was a prophet and all that crap. Muslims are alwyas trying to find an excuse to fight and bomb and kill innocent people. STOP!! Othewise the cartoonist will have the reason.

 
At 2:58 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If I could only kill some moslems... ahhh it would be so good.. so bad but SO GOOD.... I wonder what a suicide bomber would do in the middle of some islamic festival... BOOM!!!! ah.. so good.

 

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