Saturday, March 18, 2006

November Detained Egyptian Blogger, Today Expelled from the Sunni University of Al Azhar for Writings on Islam

Do you remember the Egyptian blogger/writer Nabeel Abdul Kareem (Abdolkarim) (21 years old)who has a blog under “Kareem Amer” in Arabic who was detained last November for his writings about Islam's reform, lack of freedom for women in the Muslim world and how few have hijacked the religion to carry terrorist crimes?

Kareem was a law student in Al Azahr University, the largest Sunni institution in the Muslim world. The university referred him to a disciplinary council that decided on expelling him from the university because of his writings on Islam on his blog and for his progressive views.

I wrote before on his detention: In his article, he called for the rejection of hatred in Islam to non-Muslims, hinting to the position of the Egyptian Copts. He witnessed himself the sectarian violence in Moharm Bik district in his home city of Alexandria. He gave in his blog an example how some Islamist thugs burned a liquor store owned by an Egyptian Copt while at the same time allowing a Muslim man to sell alcohol.

Today, I read Kareem's last blog post on his university decision. He seems to be in pretty good spirit. He does not sound defeated, in fact he says he has been liberated. Free Copts translated his last blog on the expulsion.

Parts of what Kareem has wrote from Free Copts blog:

"The University of El Azhar is a racist university, with all that the word "Racism" entails. Its Imams and scholars always decry countries of the West, which reached a high caliber in terms of human rights, for having been racist countries at one point of their history.

Would those turbans void of brains remove the speck from their eyes first before blaming others for actions carried out centuries ago? It is a racist university for; in spite of the fact that it is a public university financed by all Egyptian taxpayers - Muslims and Christians alike - it only accepts Muslim students! Isn't that racism?

It is a racist university because it separates male and female students and places them in separate campuses. It even goes as far as banning its female students from studying certain specialties. Isn't that racism? If there is one thing for which I would like to thank that university of El Azhar, it is for having showed me its unveiled face that I would not have been able to witness had I not been one of its students."

Karem's writings may send him to prison in Egypt. Muslim clerics (Sheikhs) has the power to lobby the society against him that may lead to some people taking legal actions against him to jail him. He may not only lose his university education but his entire future for having a criminal record. The consequences could be grave. And Karim (Abdel Kareem) is not a Danish journalist in Denmark. He is a Muslim Egyptian living in Egypt not Denmark.Do you know now why so many progressive Muslims prefer to live in the shadow? SOCIAL PERSECUTION.


At 4:44 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dearest "Freedom for Egyptian" ,
We Love your Site ,we also love you very much . You are doing a great service for all Egyptian and we are grateful .
Kareem should never despare , He is not the only victim of backwardness in Egypt, He will be Victorious in the end.He should take a break for few weeks perhaps abroad. God bless , Sam

At 6:52 PM, Blogger Egypeter said...

Sad and frustrating.

You should not censor freedom of speech NO MATTER how much it hurts, ya know? True he is very critical of Islam and the government but shouldn't one be allowed to believe in whatever the hell he wants to believe in? Restrictions on Freedom of Thought is a very dangerous thing...that's how you get mindless zombies running around. Everybody should be allowed to critically think for themselves and express it.
I think it's only common sense but then again, I don't live under an authoritarian despotic regime.

I pray and hope things work out for Karim. I hope he continues to fight the good fight!

At 7:06 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear egypeter...
We are taking here about Nations and people living 1400 years behind our current is sad and Frustrating as you say... Sam

At 7:18 PM, Blogger Steven said...

Hey egypter.

Muslems over the free world are cracking down on freedom of speech. A battle is waging.

I am going on the march for freedom of expression, however there is a Muslem group campaigning against the march for free expression! Imagine being against freedom of expression!

I make it sound funney, but it is very serious. People are worred that the Muslem groups may resort to violence against the march for free expression, however I dont think that would happen in London. Then again, I didnt think this could happen in London either, so you never know.

Of course not all Muslem people agree with this and many are for freedom of expression. These groups, however, claim to represent the majority, and I dont doubt that.

At 10:07 PM, Blogger Theway2k said...

The thought process prevalent among Mohammedans at their premier University Al Azahr is the reason it will be difficult for the West to dialogue with Mohammedan nations. Until a charismatic Moderate can take away the thunder of medieval Imams, a horrible clash in military terms will ultimately take place. Even appeasement minded Europe is beginning to show a lack of patience with Mohammedanism. Only a moderate revolution will head such a confrontation.

At 12:41 AM, Blogger bhojman said...

It's a sorry state when opinions cannot be expressed about the issues of life on this planet... although I imagine, if the opinion is positive I'm sure it can be said, if on the other hand, it's at all negative then it's 'no way'! Sad...

I wish the fellow well and hope he is able to stay true to his principles. May God bless him and encourage him today!

At 7:29 AM, Blogger flythemig29 said...

He is yet another victim of WW III. I hope he is brave enough to tough it out and will follow his story. Thanks for sharing the light of intelligence in a dark, dark, part of the world.

At 7:38 AM, Blogger Yasser_best said...

The scene is more horrible than you may think
I can tell you several stories about how press freedom is undermined in Egypt. Moreover, there is that sad self censorship in the press.
If interested to read in Arabic more interesting articles about Egyptian politics and press, please visit my blog

At 1:41 AM, Blogger ph said...

I've combined your story with the Prince Charles' visit to the same university on PIA CAUSA and linked to both your story and the Free Copt's blog.
Kareem is a far better man than is the Clown Prince

At 2:33 AM, Anonymous ldw said...

Just curious: Is Kareem's assertion that men and women law students are separated in his law school really true, and is it also true that women law students are prohibited from taking certain courses? Which courses? How does this relate to the fact that women are effectively prohibited from becoming judges in Egypt?

At 4:03 AM, Anonymous wedad said...

Iam sorry that this is happening in egypt, i felt bad for him, but he need to be encourged more and more, i'll pray for him :)

At 10:12 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Wedad ;
Don't be sorry, Iam not!, This is normal behavior in Banana Countries like Egypt and like minded backward states (or rather Cattle Farms).
Others are landing on the moon and we are treating Cancer and Virus C by drinking Camel urine (incidentally;they say it is nicer with a drop of lemon)...Sam

At 11:37 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bukhari Vol. 1, No. 234:

"The Prophet ordered them to go to the herd of camels and to drink their milk AND URINE"

(see previous post)

At 7:03 PM, Anonymous Esben said...

"Karim is not a Danish journalist in Denmark"


and _I_ thought being collectively punished was tough.

I believe Kareem had a _little_ more knowledge about what he was getting himself into , than did the Danish cartoonists.

Still, he's braver than all of us Danes put together. My prayers go to him

At 7:24 PM, Blogger Freedom for Egyptians said...


Danish journalists are enjoying an amount of freedom that is not enjoyed in the Middle East.

At 8:04 AM, Anonymous Amr said...

Dear All,

I've read your comments but i didn't read the whole article that was written. what's obvious that political issues have been mixed up with religious issues. Our religion is a peacefull religion calling for helping one another being honest and loyal and alot of other great aspects. also it calls for freedom of speach and expression with respect with one another. The islamic religion covers all aspects of life at all times since that we follow the Quran (our holy book) that's why you cann't change things according to timings, and if you(kareem) knew your holy book well you would have known that. On the other hand, about freedom of speach and expression and it's retrictions this is practiced by the gov that's why i said in the begining that there are some issues for the people who wrote the comments, are mixed up.

At 9:13 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Amr :

+ Is it the Wahabi Islam that puts you in jail for possessing a Bible in Saudi Arabia ?
+ Is it the Islam of Ibn-Taymiya ,Said Qutb and Abu Al-Ala'Al-Mawdoudi that preaches hate and killing of all Non-Moslims ??
+ Is it the Islam of Zawahiry,Zarqawy or Bin Ladin ??
+ Is it the Islam that says:"There shall be no compulsion in religion - 2:256 (Mansoukha=Abrogated)
+ Is it the Islam that says:
-"Fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them and seize them,and beleager them,and lie in wait for them " 9:5
-"against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power,including steeds of war, to strike T E R R O R into the hearts of the enemies of Allah and your enemies" 8:60
- O Apostle ! Rouse the Believers to the fight !" 8:65
- O ye who believe ! Truly the Pagans are Unclean !" 9:28
- "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day,nor hold that forbidden by Allah and his APOSTLE,nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth,even if they are of the People of the Book,until they pay the JIZIA with willing SUBMISSION,and feel themselves SUBDUED" 9:29
( JIZIA=is a Poll Tax levied from those who refuse to adopt Islam paid to Moslims and followed by a slap on the back of the neck to fulfill the order of the Quran to make them feel SUBDUED - Makhtoum ala Qafah - This was stopped in Egypt by the Albanian Ruller Mohammad Ali about 200 years ago ).
I therfore do NOT blame Moslims , I blame Allah ! .


At 10:47 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To amr :
Yes Islam Teaches respect
Please read the Following :

"وأما بالنسبة للألفاظ الجارحة التي يستخدمها العلامة نقول: تذكر المصادر الإسلامية المعتمدة من سيادة الشيخ أن معاوية بن أبي سفيان أحرق، عن طريق عامله معاوية بن خديج، محمد بن أبي بكر بعد قتله وإلقائه في جيفة حمار، وحتى هذه المسألة عادية بالنسبة لمعاوية وممارساته، لكن غير العادي أن تقوم أم حبيبة بنت أبي سفيان، أخت معاوية، وزوجة النبي (يعني من أمهات المؤمنين) بشي كبش وإرساله إلى أم المؤمنين الأخرى عائشة بنت أبي بكر، أخت محمد القتيل، تشفياً بقتل محمد. الأغرب من كل ذلك أن تقول أم المؤمنين عائشة (رضي الله عنها) لأم المؤمنين حبيبة (محبة التشفي): ((قاتل الله ابنة العاهرة، والله لا أكلت شواء بعده أبداً))!.. فإذا كانت هذه أخلاق وممارسات اللواتي يعتبرهن البوطي أمثولة، لا عجب إذاً أن يستخدم الشيخ ألفاظاً قد تثير اشمئزاز آخرين تربوا على أمثولات مختلفة - مختلفة بالكامل!!!

At 10:59 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To amr
Correct Link :

At 10:04 AM, Anonymous Freedom for Tunisians said...

Dear 'Freedom for Egyptians',

thank you for this post.
Can you give us the web address of Kareem so we show him support ?

Freedom for Tunisians

At 11:37 AM, Blogger Freedom for Egyptians said...

Dear Freedom for Tunisians,

Here is the link to Kareem's blog

By the way, I like your name:)



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